MINUTES OF HAVERHILL SELECTBOARD REGULAR
MEETING
Monday, March 2, 2009
Board Members Present: Roderick Ladd,
Peter Conrad, David Joslin, Robert Maccini and Peter Heilemann.
Town Manager: Glenn English
Administrative Assistant/Finance Officer: Jo Lacaillade,
excused
Members of the Public Present: Joel Godston,
Annemarie Godston, Raymond S. Burton.
Call Meeting to Order:
Chairman Ladd called the
meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Approval of Agenda:
Dave Joslin made a motion to
approve the agenda as presented; seconded by Bob Maccini and carried
unanimously.
Approval
of Consent Agenda:
Dave
Joslin made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda as presented; seconded by Bob
Maccini and carried unanimously.
Scheduled Public Appearances: Raymond S. Burton, Grafton County Commissioner
Ray Burton was present to
speak about County Government. He makes
a report to the towns every two years.
Mr. Burton referred to the annual report of the County and left copies
for the Board. The front burner issues
were discussed including the down sizing of the Grafton County Jail, project
from 206 to 162 beds. The
Commissioners have asked their consulting firm for a cost estimate for a 162
bed facility. Other issues are the
County departmental budget requests, it is the feeling of the Commissioners
that there will be no new positions this year and they are looking at, as a
result of a study done by an energy committee, building a biomass plant on the
campus to develop steam throughout the campus.
The consultant estimates a cost
of $4.2 million for two boilers. The
estimate in fuel cost each year is $500,000.
Commissioner Burton expected that this will be in the new budget with
bonding recommended over a number of years. They are also looking at geo-thermal energy
from groundwater as a source of
heat. They are still trying to come to
conclusion on the water tank with the Woodsville Water & Light
Department. His guess is that the
County will own it and operate it to provide the necessary water to fight fires
on the campus. Mr. Burton refereed to a
fire several years ago where there was a lack of water. The fire departments encouraged this
process. There is no agreement in
writing with the Woodsville Water & Light District and should have been but
negotiations continue. The County may
end up in the water business. The
Nursing Home continues to receive awards and remains deficiency free. This is a high moment in County
Government. The Home is full most of
the time and there is a waiting list because of the high quality of care. The Farm continues to operate but the Farm
manager would like to sell some of the herd to get it to manageable size and
help the revenue budget. The Farm lost
$28,000 last year. The Commissioners
don’t feel that this is a major budget problem and theysupport the use of
inmate labor in the Farm. The County
houses UNH Cooperative Extension, a very active group. They recently hired a new County Forester. Mr. Burton spoke about the Drug Court. This is an alternative supervision program
in lieu of incarceration. He said the
program has been successful. If there
are problems the individuals are put back into incarceration. He said that approximately 90% of the
participants are successful. He feels
this is a positive part of corrections and a good alternative to
incarceration. The new state prison in
Berlin will be full and the county jails have high populations. The county association, all ten
counties, lost in Supreme Court challenging
the Medicaid reimbursement deficiencies from the State as an unfunded mandate. Mr.
Burton said he expected more pass down of costs from the State to the
counties. He asked for any questions.
Rick Ladd asked about, in terms
of Mr. Burton’s executive council position, the House Bill HB 644 dealing with the state
gas tax. The proposal is to go up on
the tax in 5 cent increments over the next 3 years from 18, to 23 to 28 cents. Rick said he got a report from the
Republican Party saying they cannot support this bill. He said he is having a difficult time with
it. As he reads the bill 12% of the
increase is to come back to the towns as part of the Highway Block Grant. This would be a gain for us. Rick asked for input on this bill from TM
English. TM English stated that Ray
Burton has been out in front on this issue and has supported the need for a gas
tax increase as have the regional planning commission, the regional
transportation advisory committee, the NH State Association of Regional
Planning Commissions, and economic
development groups. Something must be
done to raise revenues to repair the State’s roads which are in terrible
condition. He said that if you look at
the cost to individual drivers for auto and truck repairs, alignments, blown
tires, broken springs etc. from driving on these crummy roads that is a
significant cost. He said the Town has
invested significant dollars in our own roads and some of them are better than
the State roads. The roads are getting
beat up by the heavy truck traffic. Rick Ladd said the projection is that
for the average driver, who drives 10,000 miles per year the gas tax increase would be about $25 per year. TM
English said the latest “scam” at both the federal and state level is to put
the gas tax increase on hold because of alternative fuels and that we need to
go to a mileage tax. He said that the
alternative fuel impacts are years down the road and we need to address the gas
tax now. It’s another stalling
technique to put off the problem. TM
English said he didn’t like tax increases but as a driver he didn’t mind paying
a gas tax increase because he uses the roads and should pay for the cost of
upkeep. Bob Maccini was concerned that
any increases go into the Highway Trust fund and not be diverted to other state
departments as is currently occurring.
Rick Ladd said the bill as currently crafted limits the increased
funding to highway and bridge improvements only. Ray Burton confirmed that. Mr. Burton stated that the State has over
4,000 miles of roads and under the current budget we are planning on doing 211
miles of paving this year. In previous
years 400 or 500 miles have been paved.
It would take 30 years to pave the whole State secondary road system at
211 miles per year. Mr. Burton said
that he had heard that the Republican leadership were taking no position on
this bill. It came out of the Committee
13-3 to support this. The sponsors have
done good work building coalitions on this as has the Municipal Association. The idea is getting good traction. The NH Motor Transport Association is
opposing this bill. Their plan is an
annual 2 cent increase for the next 10 years.
It’s now in the Legislature’s hands.
Mr. Burton urged the bills passage because the roads are becoming unsafe
for travel. There was a compromise in
the Committee on the diesel fuel tax that doesn’t kick in till the 2nd
or 3rd year. Peter Conrad
asked whether the County Home was providing laundry and food service for the
jail? Mr. Burton said yes they
were. Peter asked if that was to
continue in the new jail instead of
setting up a new facility within and duplicating cost? Mr. Burton said that assuming the new jail
facility is built it does include a laundry and full dietary department for
corrections use only. They have had
internal discussions with the Nursing Home administrator about this issue. He believes strongly that inmate labor,
under supervision, should be used but
that has created some problems in the Nursing Home with inappropriate
relationships between inmates and employees.
They’ve dealt with that but it goes with running a jail. The Nursing Home union contract raises
questions about Nursing Home employees supervising inmates. Mr. Burton said inmate labor will be used in
the new jail and we will be using home grown vegetables, whenever possible, in
the new jail and nursing home. Mr.
Burton said they have considered consolidation but it is the view of the
commissioners that the new county jail should have its own kitchen and
laundry. Mr. Conrad asked if this would
be an extra cost. Mr. Burton said
additional inmate labor will be used in the new jail. Mr. Joslin asked if the nursing home dietary
or laundry staff would be downsized accordingly? Mr. Burton said yes it certainly will and
that job reductions could occur. Mr.
Conrad said it sounds logical not to duplicate facilities. He complemented the use of second story
space in the jail to reduce the footprint.
Mr. Burton said when the consultant report comes in on the cost of the
downsized jail that the figure will be made public since the County is a
transparent government and all information will be made public and through the
web site. Mr. Conrad asked for
clarification on the cost of the new boilers and the fuel costs. Mr. Burton clarified that they would save
$500,000 a year in full costs. This
comes from a certified study. Mr.
Conrad said this was a good idea. Mr.
Burton said the wood needed would come from within a two mile radius of the
site. Bob Maccini asked if the Farm
loosing the money could be attributed to more restrictions on inmate
labor? Mr. Burton said no, it’s the
price of milk going down from a high of $21 per hundred-weight and it is now
down to $14-15. And the price of grain
is up. They try to keep a very healthy
herd to keep the vet bills low. They have had to cut back somewhat on the
quality of the grain. Mr. Conrad said
he strongly supports the Farm. Mr.
Burton said the State Director of Corrections would like to put more minimum
security inmates out on electronic surveillance saving $30,000 per year in
housing cost and reducing it to $8,000 which can be charged to the inmate. This will end up being decided by the
General Court in this session. If more
inmates are put out there will be more probation and parole people at the local
level. The County is a landlord
for probation and parole officers, the
Superior Court, and a small office for the Dept. of Motor Vehicles in the
Grafton County Court House. Mr. Conrad
commended the County for the inmate work programs which really have helped the
community. TM English noted that in NJ
county jails have been forced to house state prisoners as the state prisons
became overcrowded and the reimbursement did not cover the cost to the
counties. He warned Mr. Burton to be on
the lookout for this downshifting which could happen here as well. Mr.
Burton encouraged the Board to request projects from Glen Libby the Head of
Corrections. Rick Ladd said he had
heard the geo-thermal and biomass presentation and it was outstanding. He asked if when the downsizing of the jail
was discussed was the use of these new technologies included? Mr. Burton said yes that was one of the
reasons the whole study was done. He
said the report will be back soon on the new downsized jail. When they get a figure they will come back
to the Delegation for a decision. Mr.
Ladd said he was asked by a person about when the School District meeting was
scheduled because people were upset
about the tremendous increase in salaries. He asked if the County Commissioners
are directing the executive director and the department heads to take a close
look at salaries in the next budget cycle.
Mr. Burton said yes but most of the employees are on a schedule andt he
didn’t see any major increases in salaries for the coming year. The Commissioners will come to the
Delegation with a very limited budget increase given the economic times. They deal with one union. There used to be three but two voted to
disband because they felt the employees were being treated well. One was in the County Jail. There is still an active union in the
nursing home. Mr. Joslin asked if the
Register of Deeds was required to work a certain number of hours. Mr. Burton said no. The Register and the other elected officials do not have set hours.
Mr. Maccini noted that they
do have to competently perform their jobs.
If they are not doing their jobs can something be done? Mr. Burton said yes through the budget
process the Commissioners and Delegation can exert some pressure. Peter Conrad said it might be better for
some of these jobs to be appointed rather than elected. Mr. Burton said this has been discussed but
County Government political roots are deep and State law governs all of this. Mr. Joslin asked if there would be a drop in
staffing cost with a downsized jail.
Mr. Burton said yes but he didn’t have the numbers yet. Rick Ladd said O & M costs were a
concern. Mr. Joslin asked if there were
plans to use the current jail building for something else, if the new jail is
built. Mr. Burton said it was
discussed. One option is to demolish
it. He said the Haverhill Heritage
Commission asked about using it.
Another proposal was to turn it into a poultry farm to sell eggs. Mr. Burton said these vacant buildings are a
concern and he was in favor of finding another use or demolishing them. TM English suggested using the newer section
of the present jail as a juvenile detention facility. Now all juveniles must be transported to
Concord to be housed and this is a high cost to the towns and County for
transportation. There would be an
increased cost to the County for staffing, etc. but he thought a regional
facility would be good for the North Country.
Mr. Burton stated that the County had looked at a shared facility with
Coos, Belknap and Carroll County to establish a regional
site for juvenile detention. Now they
go to Concord to the Colby House which is proposed to be closed and move these
people to the Sununu Youth Center which has a very low population right
now. This is in Manchester. TM English said that a more local facility
would save the police departments and the Grafton County Sheriff’s Department
and other sheriff’s departments the high cost of transport to Concord or
Manchester. Rick Ladd asked if there
was enough ground water in the aquifer at the County to supply the
complex. Bob Maccini said he didn’t know
but it would have to be a bedrock well since the area across Rt. 10 was not
aquifer type soils. There may be enough water from a drilled
well to keep the tank system filled.
There was further discussion on the water system issue. Mr. Burton said if the Board would like to
see any particular department head they didn’t have to go through him just feel
free to invite them. Mr. Godston asked
about the County Farm herd size. Mr.
Burton said County Government Week will be the first week in May. There will be an open house on May 11th. Mr. Burton said if anyone was interested in
County pigs or hogs, contact the Farm Manager or Administration. Mr. Burton left some County literature with
the Board and they thanked him for his presentation.
Public Hearing(s):
None
Town Manager’s Report: TM
English reported that Jo Lacaillade had surgery last week and she was home and
doing well. She communicates by e-mail
on a daily basis. He expected her to be
out the balance of this week and into next week. Mr. Ladd asked if she could be asked about
the annual report being put on the web.
Pending (Old) Business:
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ZBA Member Re-appoinments: TM English reported that Mr. Dannehy and Mr.
Guy have been contacted and wished to be re-appointed. Selectboard representative Dave Joslin said they both have done a good
job and he supported their re-appointments.
TM English reported that Jim Graham, the ZBA Chair, also supported their
re-appointments. Bob Maccini made a
motion to re-appointment Richard Guy and Mike Dannehy to the ZBA, seconded by Peter
Conrad and all approved.
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Agreement re: Life Safety Code/Fire Code 3rd Party Inspections: Rick Ladd noted that at the last meeting the
Town Manager was instructed to meet with Town Attorney to review the agreement
that the fire chiefs, commissioners and Board would sign for the 3rd
party inspector. TM English reported
that he and Town Attorney went through the questions which Chairman Ladd had
put together and made an attempt to answer them. Then they put together a proposed revised
agreement which incorporates some of the ideas of the precinct we heard from,
which was North Haverhill, and this was all sent to Selectboard members via
e-mail and copies placed in the folders.
The main points of contention seemed to be control, liability and hiring
of the individual, who the individual reports to. Both Town Attorney and TM English feel
strongly that if the individual is a Town employee or contractor he has to be
completely responsible to the Town Manager per the statute and not to the fire
chiefs; although the fire chiefs’ input would be valuable to put together a job
description or maybe interviewing an initial list of candidates, but the final
decision on hiring should be the Town’s.
The other issue is the inspections themselves. The fire chiefs wish to reserve the right to
supersede the Town fire inspector on certain inspections. This should not be agreed to by the
Board. The Board members reviewed the
material provided. Rick Ladd said it
was good that the fire chiefs could work with the Town Manager to
develop the qualifications of the job and participate in the interview
process. He said number 3 where the
Town fire inspector is empowered and encouraged to consult with the district
fire chiefs and number 5 where the Town fire inspector will provide reports of
each inspection to the district fire chief are a direct result of feedback from
the fire chiefs which is positive.
Rick Ladd asked about the four year term of the agreement. TM English stated that he felt that it would
be a waste to go to a completely new system for 2 years only. We should specify a little longer term to
give it a chance to succeed. Also we
may not be able to hire a qualified inspector for a short two-year term of
service; it’s not much of a commitment
to your potential employee or contractor.
He said he would prefer an even longer term for the agreement but in an
attempt to compromise he set it at 4 years.
Peter Heilemann agreed that a four year agreement should expand the pool
of candidates for the job. Bob Maccini
said it would give the program a chance to be refined and smoothed out over
time. Rick Ladd said we really tried to
work with these commissioners. This
agreement is good for them and good for the Town. TM English said yes but they have to be
willing to give up some control and his caution is that the same thing could
happen to this that happened with the current inspection system. The current system was set up to be
uniformly administered Town-wide and it wasn’t because the local chiefs had
control to change the inspection fees and make other changes. There are different needs and wants in the
different districts and their tendency is to operate the way they’ve always
operated. And this is a major change to
go from a parochial, district approach to a Town-wide approach. Rick Ladd said this proposal is a good
attempt , with three separate fire departments, to do something in common. TM English said yes but the price they pay
for that is control. He said the
precinct commissioners will want to exercise input and again he would caution
against any input by the precinct commissioners into this system because it
will only create problems. They certainly have a right to see the
results of the inspections and be apprised of what the inspector is doing, but
they cannot control the specific actions of the Town inspector. Bob Maccini said he disagreed
somewhat. He said he valued the input of
the commissioners on anything at any time but agreed they can’t have say over a
specific inspection. TM English
agreed. Rick Ladd agreed. TM English said we’ve set up an appeal
process from our inspector to the State Fire Marshal. The appeal process is not from our inspector
to the Town Manager or to the Selectboard or to the precinct
commissioners. That is not the appeal
process on a specific inspection. We
can all of course have input on the program.
But if the Town inspector is going to have interference on the actual
inspections he doesn’t want to do this at all.
Rick Ladd said he thought that was how the process works at the precinct
level. TM English said he wasn’t really
sure how it really works. Rick Ladd
said that at the precinct level it goes from the fire chief to the State Fire Marshal
and back to the fire chief for his opinion and back to the State Fire Marshal
for a decision. This agreement takes
this stuff out of the equation. TM
English said it does and it doesn’t. The
State Fire Marshal may still go back to the local chief on an
appeal on something the Town Inspector did.
There is always the potential for politics in this. There is no such thing as a pure system but
what the Town is trying to do, Town Counsel and himself, is to insulate the
Town from as much liability as possible for stuff that we can’t control. Bob Maccini said yes and at the same time
have a program that has some consistency and is a little bit arms length. Rick Ladd said the proposed compromise
agreement is appropriate and fair and it meets the intent and incorporates many
of the concerns of the fire chiefs.
The communication process is there.
He said he hopes the commissioners will see it that way and the process
can be expedited. TM English asked how
the Board would like the agreement presented.
Rick Ladd said to hand deliver the agreement to the commissioners and
they need to meet with their chiefs and get all the signatures and submit it
back via the commissioners to the Board. Bob Maccini agreed. He stated that some minor changes within our
intent could be entertained but if the precincts wanted the Town to pick up the
ball they need to let us call the shots.
Rick Ladd said he’s not willing to spend any money in the budget for
this unless we have the concurrence of all three precincts. Bob Maccini moved that the Town Manger
proceed with transmitting the new draft agreement to the precinct commissioners
for their acceptance and the concurrence of their fire chiefs and that it would
need to be returned by all 3 fire districts with all commissioners and fire
chiefs signing the agreement . Rick
added for a hand delivery to each Commission Chair, seconded by Peter Heilemann
and all approved.
New Business:
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Mildred Page Fund Request: Haverhill Heritage Inc: TM
English said we have the annual request for ’09 from Haverhill Heritage for
Alumni Hall. The request is for $6,000
but there is only $3,184 balance in the Fund.
There are no other requests pending at this time. They understand that payment would have to
be made in installments. Rick Ladd
asked if the money will be used for operating expenses. TM English said no, it is to help pay down the loan they took to
finish the reconstruction of the Hall. HHI
took a $40,000 loan and TM English said he thought that the balance was down to
about $16,000 at this point. TM English
said he had heard that they had a buyer for the Academy building and that the Haverhill
Historical Society has applied for a Scenic By-way Grant toward the Pearson
Hall restoration as a museum. Bob
Maccini said they basically are asking for us to commit $6,000 as it becomes
available. TM English said we get
about $2,000 per quarter so by the end of the year we’ll be over $6,000. Peter Conrad made a motion to
approve
up to $6,000 for the year 2009, seconded by Bob Maccini.
Peter Conrad said he
doesn’t understand why we are committing all the money
for the year. If someone else has a
need there would be no money available. So there is no emergency money set
aside. He would like to see some money set aside. Bob Maccini said he agreed but this is a Town
fund and the library has their own fund
and the schools have their own fund.
TM English said it only applies to the public buildings in Haverhill
Corner, the only other eligible buildings
would be Ladd Street School and the Pearson
Hall/Academy Buildings. There
was no further discussion and the motion was approved.
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Deputy Fire Warden Appointment: Bob
Maccini made a motion to appoint Mike Bonano as a Deputy Fire Warden, seconded
by Dave Joslin and all approved.
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Gym Usage Request:
There is a request from East
Haverhill Academy to use the gym. Initially
they wanted two nights a week and TM English discussed this with Glenn Hatch
and they agreed that one night on Tuesday would be OK. This is for basketball. It would start ASAP and run through April. It was discussed that they have their own
gym. Dave Joslin said there has been
discussion about Glenn Hatch taking over the gym scheduling. TM English agreed and he said he had talked
to Glenn Hatch about this and he agreed he could do this. Rick Ladd expressed concerns about cleaning
requirements. It does take money to keep
the building clean. TM English said a
fee could be charged. Bob Maccini said
if management is to be turned over to the Rec Director a fee schedule should be
developed by the Board. TM English said
the biggest users of the gym is the school system. If there is a cost to maintain the gym
probably 80% could be attributed to school use. Most of the rest is our own use for
recreation, not outside organizations. Rick
Ladd said that once a fee schedule is developed he thinks administration could
be handed over to the Recreation Director and it wouldn’t have to come to the
Board. Peter Conrad said that if they
cause a clean-up to be required we should charge for that. Bob Maccini made a
motion to approve the request contingent upon Glenn Hatch working out a
schedule and that any required custodial services will be charged, Peter Conrad said it was good that people
could use the building and if they don’t mess it up there is no fee and if they
do it is charged. TM English noted that
the Academy is a tax-payer in Town. Peter Heilemann said he agreed with charging
a fee, if required for clean up. Rick
Ladd said this a private organization and we need to develop a gym use policy
to differentiate between private organizations and public organizations and
then hand it to Glenn Hatch to administer.
TM English said we have a policy which he can bring to the Board.
There was further discussion about proper supervision. TM English said we haven’t had a real
problem with the gym for several years.
It’s been managed pretty well. A
lot of these issues are overstated. The
motion was seconded by Peter Helimann and all approved. The Board decided to review gym use policy
at the next meeting before turning over administration of gym usage requests to
the Recreation Director.
Presentations and Awards: None
Commission/Committee
Reports: Joel Godston announced that
Airport Awareness Day is June 6th this year, rain date June 7th.
Correspondence: TM English noted that a letter was received from the
Grafton County Commissioners in response to the Board’s letter about the Jail
project. Copies of the letter are in
the Board’s folders.
Comments of the Public: Joel Godston noted that New Hampshire’s fuel tax is
lower than any other state in New England so we have a long way to go so we
could increase that tax. Rick Ladd
noted that despite the fuel tax being higher in other states they are still
lower in total price than New Hampshire gas stations. They always seem to cover that tax. All were in agreement that the State gas tax
could be raised as long as the money wasn’t diverted to some other purpose
which has been done in the past. TM
English said NHDOT Commissioner Campbell has been successful in eliminating
some of the diversions.
Comments of the Town Manager: Town meeting is March 10th and this is the last
Selectboard meeting prior to town meeting and he suggested that the Board
members should be prepared to speak to the warrant articles. Bob Maccini suggested that everybody study
the warrant and the speaking assignments can be made at the town meeting.
Comments of Selectboard Members: Peter
Heilemann apologized for missing
meetings because of his night classes.
He graduates on May 16th.
Adjourn Meeting: Bob Maccini made a motion to adjourn, seconded
by Dave Joslin and all approved. The
meeting was adjourned by Chairman Ladd at
7:39 pm.
Minutes
transcribed by Glenn English